Comments on: Cybercitizen? http://www.hlswatch.com/2010/07/09/cybercitizen/ News and analysis of critical issues in homeland security today. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 06:16:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Homeland Security Watch » Bottom Up Review: Button Down and Focus http://www.hlswatch.com/2010/07/09/cybercitizen/comment-page-1/#comment-139782 Homeland Security Watch » Bottom Up Review: Button Down and Focus Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:09:54 +0000 http://www.hlswatch.com/?p=10342#comment-139782 [...] classifying the smart grid and critical infrastructure systems as national security systems,  see Cybercitizen?, we will have to see which agency’s definition of “civilian national security [...] [...] classifying the smart grid and critical infrastructure systems as national security systems,  see Cybercitizen?, we will have to see which agency’s definition of “civilian national security [...]

]]> By: Christopher Bellavita http://www.hlswatch.com/2010/07/09/cybercitizen/comment-page-1/#comment-139737 Christopher Bellavita Tue, 13 Jul 2010 01:27:14 +0000 http://www.hlswatch.com/?p=10342#comment-139737 Richard Clarke and Robery Knake's book "Cyber War: The Next Threat to National Security and What to Do About It" (http://amzn.to/9r5wqs) discusses many of the issues Jessica raises. I'm about 2/3rd through it. The book is neither scholarly nor objective, but it does translate the cyber security issue into language and examples that hit the side of my head with enough force to direct my attention to the issue. Richard Clarke and Robery Knake’s book “Cyber War: The Next Threat to National Security and What to Do About It” (http://amzn.to/9r5wqs) discusses many of the issues Jessica raises. I’m about 2/3rd through it. The book is neither scholarly nor objective, but it does translate the cyber security issue into language and examples that hit the side of my head with enough force to direct my attention to the issue.

]]> By: CitizenCyber http://www.hlswatch.com/2010/07/09/cybercitizen/comment-page-1/#comment-139712 CitizenCyber Sat, 10 Jul 2010 12:40:24 +0000 http://www.hlswatch.com/?p=10342#comment-139712 A very well presented and enlightening post! If in fact the author is addressing such in the real world, a very necessary committed discipline inherent with obvious insightful perspective and no doubt any and all further contributions from William Cumming will only prompt more meaningful discussion - at least, let's hope the White House and others like our Congressional members are reading and have comment as well.... Bravo! chris.tingus@gmail.com A very well presented and enlightening post!

If in fact the author is addressing such in the real world, a very necessary committed discipline inherent with obvious insightful perspective and no doubt any and all further contributions from William Cumming will only prompt more meaningful discussion – at least, let’s hope the White House and others like our Congressional members are reading and have comment as well….

Bravo!

chris.tingus@gmail.com

]]> By: CitizenCyber http://www.hlswatch.com/2010/07/09/cybercitizen/comment-page-1/#comment-139711 CitizenCyber Sat, 10 Jul 2010 12:31:34 +0000 http://www.hlswatch.com/?p=10342#comment-139711 A very well presented and enlightening post! If in fact the author is addressing such in the real world, a very necessary committed discipline inherent with obvious insightful perspective and no doubt any and all further contributions from William Cumming will only prompt more meaningful discussion - at least, let's hope so! Bravo! A very well presented and enlightening post! If in fact the author is addressing such in the real world, a very necessary committed discipline inherent with obvious insightful perspective and no doubt any and all further contributions from William Cumming will only prompt more meaningful discussion – at least, let’s hope so!

Bravo!

]]> By: William R. Cumming http://www.hlswatch.com/2010/07/09/cybercitizen/comment-page-1/#comment-139704 William R. Cumming Fri, 09 Jul 2010 21:12:44 +0000 http://www.hlswatch.com/?p=10342#comment-139704 As I have previously commented the ORZAG July 6th memo documents the fact that so called "computer security" efforts (see OMB Circular A-130 for example) and cyber security remain on different planets. YUP because of their budget and reporting role OMB remains a player in all preparedness activity whether EM or HS or whatever. And that real history is filled with failure to follow up to well-written and well-conceived policy documents. Why? OMB too thin to really be an adminstrative overseee of any specific programmatic function. They have just enough power to make sure NO other entity can do the job either. Time for Congress to really look very hard at the culture and operations of OMB on the Management side of the OMB. As I have previously commented the ORZAG July 6th memo documents the fact that so called “computer security” efforts (see OMB Circular A-130 for example) and cyber security remain on different planets. YUP because of their budget and reporting role OMB remains a player in all preparedness activity whether EM or HS or whatever. And that real history is filled with failure to follow up to well-written and well-conceived policy documents. Why? OMB too thin to really be an adminstrative overseee of any specific programmatic function. They have just enough power to make sure NO other entity can do the job either. Time for Congress to really look very hard at the culture and operations of OMB on the Management side of the OMB.

]]> By: Jessica Herrera-Flanigan http://www.hlswatch.com/2010/07/09/cybercitizen/comment-page-1/#comment-139703 Jessica Herrera-Flanigan Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:51:23 +0000 http://www.hlswatch.com/?p=10342#comment-139703 The OMB document can be found at http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/assets/memoranda_2010/m10-28.pdf The OMB document can be found at http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/assets/memoranda_2010/m10-28.pdf

]]> By: William R. Cumming http://www.hlswatch.com/2010/07/09/cybercitizen/comment-page-1/#comment-139702 William R. Cumming Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:34:17 +0000 http://www.hlswatch.com/?p=10342#comment-139702 Very useful history and great post. So many thanks Jessica. Is the July 6th delineation of roles doc on the White House webpage? It sounds also like you may be working this issue in the real world and I do have some excellent documentation from the 80's when the analysis of the impacts of the 1965 and 1977 NYC blackouts was fully comprehended. Also of course the NE power outage about 5 years ago was also a huge event. If you want some of that history hard copy and some virtual contact me offline at vlg338@yahoo.com Very useful history and great post. So many thanks Jessica. Is the July 6th delineation of roles doc on the White House webpage?

It sounds also like you may be working this issue in the real world and I do have some excellent documentation from the 80′s when the analysis of the impacts of the 1965 and 1977 NYC blackouts was fully comprehended. Also of course the NE power outage about 5 years ago was also a huge event. If you want some of that history hard copy and some virtual contact me offline at vlg338@yahoo.com

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